USS Plymouth Rock (LSD29)

Newsletter  May - August, 2010

Welcome to the USS Plymouth Rock Newsletter

Twenty-six  Edition:  The USS Plymouth Rock Newsletter is a publication issued every four months by the USS Plymouth Rock Ships Association.  If you would like to contribute an article, a piece of Navy or Plymouth Rock history, photo, memory or anything that might be of interest to you or other shipmates, you can send it as an e-mail to:

Bill Provencal, Association  Secretary at:
billinp@metrocast.net

or regular mail at:
Bill Provencal
37 South Main Street
Pittsfield, NH   03263

If you change address or e-mail address be sure to let me (Bill Provencal) know so we can update our Crews List.   My e-mail is billinp@metrocast.net, my home address is listed above.   We have been getting a lot of returns on our newsletter mailing to you guys who are paid dues members.   Our ships website is found at www.ussplymouthrock.com

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Ships Officers

President
Tom Wagner
tfwagner@wagnerinsuranceagency.com
812-539-9548

Vice President
David Dortch
870-236-3725  
tazrhondave@yahoo.com

Treasurer
Paul Mohawk
pshawks@charter.net

817-656-7739

Secretary/Webmaster
Bill Provencal
billinp@metrocast.net
603-435-8603

Ships Historians
Harry T.  Andersen
htajma@att.net
847-336-2151

George Bierce
203-223-6965
gbierce@netzero.com

Ships Storekeeper
Dennis (Shorty) Cyr
shortybm3@yahoo.com
203-753-6220

Reunion Coordinator:
David Dortch
870-236-3725  
tazrhondave@yahoo.com

 
 

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Recently Located Shipmates

Robert McQueen, MM3, 202 Paul Gust Rd., PMB 246, Chamberlain, SD  57325, 202-253-4892.  E-Mail address:  captnmac@gmail.com
Michael Lambert. BMSN, 1 Westerlo Street, PO Box 871, Coeyman's, NY  12045, 518-756-9758.  E-Mail address:  mikel4242@gmail.com
Paul Peraino, SN, 3042 N. Nordica, Chicago, Il  60634-4741, 773-637-0154, On Board 2/56-9/56.  E-Mail address:  bsapaul1@yahoo.com
Roger Betts, Capt., 505 Orange Avenue, Apt. #502, Sarasota, FL  34236, 941-706-2594, On Board 1/73-9/74.  E-Mail address:  rbetts10@comcast.net
Col. Bruce F. Harting, USMC, 5568 La Moya Ave., Jacksonville, FL, 904-771-7154, On Board Med Cruise, 1960.  E-Mail address:  U_S_M_C@msn.com
William F. Hambrick, MMCS, 13678 Lake Lurleen Rd., Coker, AL  35452, On Board 81-83.  E-Mail Address:  whambrick8067@charter.net
Bob Ralston, MR2, 15 Ave. de la Mer-2307, Palm Coast, FL  32137.  On Board 12/58-10/62.  E-Mail Address:  bobralstonhdc@aol.com
Gene Suggs, SMCM, 107 Saratoga Place, Lynn Haven, FL  32444.  On Board 7/77-1/80.  E-Mail Address:  gsuggs46@yahoo.com
Joe Palmieri, BT3, 182 W. Cream Ridge, NJ  08514.  On Board 62-63.  E-Mail Address:  joepalmnj@hotmail.com





 

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Recent Address Changes to the Ships Muster List

Jack Morton, SN, Ormond Beach, FL.  New E-mail address:  jambcbphl@aol.com
Andy Kulczinsky, 20 Kenwood Dr., Southbury, CT.  New E-mail address:  harold88@snet.net
Lyle F. Janes, YN3, 5023 Hidden Pines Ct., Midland, MI  46640, 989-486-3677
Jeremy Lewis, 703 West Ferry St., D-14, Buffalo, NY  14222, 716-465-3184
Thomas W. Hickson Sr., BT3, 1718 9th Avenue #46, Moline, IL  61265
Jerry S. Whitlock, BTC, 304 Apollo Drive, Hampton, VA  23669  New E-mail address:  jnjwhitmo@peoplepc.com
Joseph DFranco, EM1, Peabody, MA  New E-mail address:  jandmd60@yahoo.com
Robert Farneski, , BT3, Bridgewater, NJ  New phone number:  908-581-0561
Richard L. McCoy, RM3, Hamilton, NJ  New E-mail address:  realmac2@verizon.net

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Known Deceased Shipmates  
For a complete listing of deceased shipmates, visit our Memorial Page in the ships website

Richard E. Kinner, MMCM, Deceased May 7, 2010  
   

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Female submariners okayed
Navy announces duty begins 2012
by Russ Bynum / The Associated Press
April 30th, 2010

The first U.S. women allowed to serve aboard submarines will be reporting for duty by 2012, the Navy said yesterday as the military ordered an end to one of its few remaining gender barriers. The cramped quarters and scant privacy aboard submarines, combined with long tours of up to 90 days at sea, kept them off-limits to female sailors for 16 years after the Navy began allowing women to serve on all its surface ships in 1994. There were some protests, particularly from wives of sub sailors, after the military began formulating a plan last fall. But it received no objections from Congress after Defense Secretary Robert Gates notified lawmakers in mid-February that the Navy intended to lift the ban. The deadline for Congress to intervene passed at midnight Wednesday.

Rear Adm. Barry Bruner, who led the Navy's task force on integrating women onto submarines, brushed aside questions from reporters about the potential for sexual misconduct or unexpected pregnancies among a coed crew.  "We're going to look back on this four or five years from now, shrug our shoulders and say, 'What was everybody worrying about?' " said Bruner, the top sub commander at Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base in coastal Georgia, where the announcement was made.

The first group of women will consist entirely of officers assigned to guided-missile attack submarines and ballistic-missile submarines, which have the most living space in the Navy's fleet. They'll be assigned to two subs based at Kings Bay on the East Coast, and two others at the West Coast naval hub of Bangor, Wash. Limiting women to officer slots lets the Navy, for a time at least, sidestep the more vexing and cost-prohibitive problem of modifying subs to have separate bunks and bathrooms for enlisted men and women. Enlisted sailors make up about 90 percent of a sub's 160-sailor crew. No timeline was given for integrating enlisted women onto subs.

Bruner said 24 women will be able to begin training for submarine officers, which takes at least 15 months, this summer. They'll be divided up so that three women are assigned to each sub's two rotating crews.  That grouping will let all three women aboard a sub share a single stateroom for sleeping. The single bathroom shared by a sub's 15 officers will be equipped with a sign to show if it's occupied by men or women.  Otherwise, most changes will likely be behavioral shifts by male sailors who aren't used to having women aboard, said Lt. Cmdr. Daniel Lombardo, executive officer of the submarine USS Alaska. "The guys are probably used to walking to the restroom in their boxer shorts and stuff," Lombardo said.

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Thank You's

We would like to thank the following shipmates/friends for providing pictures, information and articles to the website, the Ships Association and newsletter.

Frank Jackson, ABE2,
USS Ranger CV61
Harry Andersen, BTC Ron Swearingen, DC3
James Ziemba, HM2    

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Paid Association Members for 2009-2010
As of August 25, 2010 we now have 150 paid members

Become a Member of the Ships Association

As you can imagine any group or association such as ours requires funds.  The funds are used primarily for paying the costs of the Website (server fees, registration of our .com address), mailing out the newsletter to all paying dues members (printing, postage), general mailings up-front cost of upcoming reunion and postage.  Our primary source of revenue are the bi-annual dues of $25.00.   To become a member of the USS Plymouth Rock Association complete the Application for Membership which can be found in the Ships Website on the Links Page or call/write/e-mail either my self or Paul Mohawk and we will send you an application.

The 2009-2010 dues are now due, please send dues to Paul Mohawk, Treasurer.  Make checks payable to USS Plymouth Rock Association.  Dues are payable on a bi-annual basis (every two years) at $25.00 and are due on the year of the reunion (are due on an even year 2004, 2006, 2008, etc).  Should a member or prospective member pay at any other time, dues will be credited from the preceding even year All dues paying members receive the Newsletter three times a year by US Mail.    Paul Mohawk's address is:  5558 Canyon Lands Drive, Ft. Worth, TX   76137

If your name does not appear on this list and you have paid your dues, please let Paul Mohawk know as soon as possible.  His e-mail address is pshawks@charter.net

 

Adam, Ian Andersen, Harry Alardyce, John Anstett, William Baldwin, Brad
Balf, Priscilla Bell, Joe Bellingham, Paul II Bena, Joe Bentheimer, Glenn
Bergeron, Richard Bierce, George Bild, Bob Black, Robert C. Britt, Ben
Brown, Alvin G. Brusky, David Brunton, Thomas Buchanan, Richard Buiak, Peter Jr.
Caldwell, Tim Cartwright, Richard Casillas. Greg Clark, Nick Clark, Robert
Comstock, Ed Conboy, Bill Conklin, Robert T Conroy, Michael Crowl II, Martin C.
Cuffey, Arvell Cummings, Bob Cummings, Steve Cypher, Hal Cyr, Dennis
Czarnetski, Bruce Czarnetski, Jon Dailey, Ronald J. Dalfonzo, Sam Dawson, Kenneth E.
Derry, Thomas K. DiFranco, Joseph Dortch, David Dushane, David Dussault, Andrew
Edwards, Maurice Eldridge, Marguerite Farneski, Robert Fisher, Jack Fisher, Jay
Formaro, Frank Forton, Mary Freeman, James Furman, Herbert III Gallagher, Edward
Gee, James Goodman, William Greco, Charliene Guertin, Jerry Hart, Ed.
Hartson, George Haws, Joe Haynie, Bill Helledy, David Hickson, Thomas W., Sr
Hicks, Richard Hill, Edward Jr. Hopper, Richard Howland, John Hyatt, Walter
Ishmael, Harry Jacques, Doug Jennings, Seeley Jepson, Norm Joyce, Ed.
Kane, Thomas Kaderka, Leonard King, Ronald Kluczinsky, Andy Krolak, Ray
Kuhns, Jimmy Lamay, Roger Larson, Jerry Lavallee, Leo Lee, Thomas P.
Lillig, Bernie F Logan, Ben Luttrell, James Macomber, Brandon Mathis, Richard
McCully, Wade Sr. Means, Carlon Miller, Dale Miller, Ronald Miskelly, Francis
Mohawk, Paul Musella, Rocco Nichols, Bob O"Neill, Thomas Pihl, Walter C.
Power, Rand Provencal, Bill Purvis, Anthony Pyle, Ted Ramondetta, Vic
Reed, John F. Rhine, Don Richardson, Dale Ringer, Joseph E. Robertson, Allen
Robinson, Jim Roe, Lawrence "Ed" Rose, Christopher Safford, Richard Savage, David
Scott, Bill Shanahan, Robert Shewchuk, Richard Shober, Robert Sims, Bill
Smith, James Smith, Larry E. Snider, Lester Stackhouse, Norman Stark, Jr., Peter A.
Stull, John III Swart, Mike Swathwood, David Swearingen, Ron Tacinelli, Jerry
Tesh, Sam Thibodeau, Doug Toungette, Mike Tunstall, Van Viaene, Lois
Wagner, Thomas F. Walker, Gerald M. Warwick, Robert Watkins, Richard P. Watson, Ernest
Watts, Richard A. Whittle, David Ziemba, James Larkin, Chuck Pratt, Richard
Flanagan, Mike Morton, Jack Perino, Paul Betts, Roger Whitlock, Jerry S

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Charleston, SC Reunion Information

From the desk of Reunion Coordinator David Dortch
 

Current information of number attending reunion as of August 13, 2010

Attending (56)
Buffet (47)
Banquet (47)
Yorktown Tour (46)
Old Charleston Tour (39)
Ft. Sumter Tour (30)
Drayton/ Magnolia (7)
Magnolia Tour (18)
Hunley Tour (50)
Memorial Service (52)
 
The only thing I can think of now for the newsletter is to ask people to please prepare to pay at registration in cash if possible for the different activities.
 
Note: If anyone hasn't already signed up they can call or e-mail me to see what is available.  Reunion Coordinator:  David Dortch, 870-236-3725, tazrhondave@yahoo.com
 
Note: The people who will be attending, please bring any PR photos or mementos to share with others. 
 
Dave

For general information on the reunion, hotel, tours, dates, etc., you can access this by going to the ships website at www.ussplymouthrock.com
Driving directions to Our Hotel:  I-26 to Exit 220 to Highway. 17 North over Cooper River Bridge bear right on Coleman Blvd. Right at 1st light. Hotel on right.


Other things to see and do in Charleston

The Charleston Museum was founded in 1773 and is regarded as America’s first museum. Special collections are available, in addition to regular exhibits including an overview of Charleston’s rice cultivation and a collection of Charleston silver.

The Heyward-Washington House was built in 1772 by rice planter Daniel Heyward. The City rented it for President George Washington's “Southern Tour” visit in 1791. There is a magnificent collection of Charleston-made furniture along with a traditional outbuilding and gardens.

The Joseph Manigault House, situated near the Museum, was built in 1803 and is one of Charleston’s most elegant historic homes — a three-story Adam-style (Federal) architecture. The house is a fine example of a country estate originally located outside the city walls.

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Mail Call

  Rerceived a e-mail from Richard McCoy, RM3, Hamilton, NJ  "Hey you guys, I changed my email address and failed to inform you. New address is realmac2@verizon.net. Thought it weird that I haven't heard anything from you. I have been in contact with John Chappell and he kinda keeps me informed.... Let me hear from you!"  His e-mail address is realmac2@verizon.net
 

Received an e-mail from Lisa Scupien:  "Hi, my name is Lisa Scupien. I am doing some research for a friend and I'm not really sure where to begin. He is looking for a guy named John MacPherson, Jr., MS,  who served on the USS Plymouth Rock LSD-29 from 1979-1983. I only have a last known address and phone # which is no good any more.  If you know where I can find information on the people who served on this ship, please send me anything you may have by e-mail. Thanks for your help!"  Her e-mail address is lscupein@dellaauto.net

Back in my younger years I was in the Marine Corps. I went on A trip to the Island of Vieques in 1958/59 on the USS PLYMOUTH ROCK LSD29 that was one greatship with A great crew. I would like to get A picture for my military scrap-book, can you help me with that?  A fellow veteran,  Walter Martens His e-mail address is walt4lite2@yahoo.com

Bill, thank you for your kindness. Also, thank you for the images of the ship. I was able to locate and download some other images of the P-rock for Dad's funeral, but the ones you sent were much nicer. My father's name is Richard E. Kinner and he was a chief (E-8) machinist's mate when he was on board the P-rock. I'm not exactly sure of the dates he served on LSD-29, but from what I can remember as a child and from his orders that I could find (dad was a real pack-rat), he served from approximately November 1960 until September 1965. He was then transferred to the USS Telfair (which was promptly de-commissioned), the USS Marias (AO-57), the USS Salinan (ATF-161) and the USS Canisteo (AO-99). Dad retired as CWO-3 in 1975. His wife of 58 years is still living near us in Apollo Beach, Florida, but she will likely return to Virginia Beach after she sells her property here. Dad's remains will be interned at a temporary columbarium at the Church of the Holy Family in Virginia Beach on Friday, May 7, 2010. I'm sure he is telling his former shipmates who have gone to rest some great sea-stories. Again, thank you for your kindness and thank you and all who have served on LSD-29 for their service to their country. Best regards and may God bless you.
Richard E. Kinner, Jr.

Received an e-mail from Jeremy Lewis, BM3, Buffalo, NY  " I was on the P-Rock from May 4, 1980 until DECOMM  in 1983.  I still have my cruise book from UNITAS XXII.  After the P-Rock I had 8 more years in the USN ending up as a BM1.  I then went into the Army reserve, and I believe that I am probably the only P-Rock Navy crewman to fight in the Iraq war, I was in the initial invasion in 2003 and spent a year in Iraq.  The last time I saw the Plymouth Rock she was tied up at Portsmouth VA and we were scrounging parts for the USS Canisteo and she was tied up on the other side of the pier we were on. His e-mail address is gunfighter1B@aol.com

Received an e-mail from Jerry S. Whitlock, BTC,  on board June 76-March 79.  "CALL OR E MAIL STILL KICKING WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU"  His e-mail address is jnjwhitmo@peoplepc.com

 

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Admiral of the Navy - There is only one Admiral of the Navy and it was Admiral George Dewey.

Ahoy This old traditional greeting for hailing other vessels was originally a Viking battle cry.

Bib The portion of a Navy enlisted uniform that hangs from the back of the neck. In the wooden navy it was fashion for sailors to have long hair but it would get blown about by the winds and get stuck in the rigging or machinery. To counteract this sailors at sea would braid their hair and dip it in tar (used to seal the boards on the ship). When ashore on liberty (as opposed to a longer leave where they would wash the tar out of the hair) they would cut a bib out of sack cloth and tie it around their neck to keep from getting tar on their one good shirt. The bib eventually became an official part of the enlisted uniform.

Boatswain As required by 17th Century law, British ships-of-war carried three smaller boats, the boat, the cock-boat, and the skiff. The boat - or gig - was usually used by the Captain to go ashore and was the larger of the three. The cock-boat was a very small rowboat used as the ship's tender. The skiff was a lightweight all-purpose vessel. The suffix "swain" means keeper, thus the keepers of the boat, cock, and skiff were called boatswain and cockswain (or coxswain).

Clothes Stops A small diameter cord, approximately 12 inches, used to tie laundry to a clothes line. The early Navy clothes pin. Issued in recruit training until 1973.

Dress Ship Commissioned ships are "full-dressed" on Washington's Birthday and Independence Day, and "dressed" on other national holidays. When a ship is dressed, the national ensign is flown from the flagstaff and usually from each masthead. When a ship is full-dressed, in addition to the ensigns, a "rainbow" of signal flags is displayed from bow to stern over the mastheads, or as nearly so as the construction of the ships permits. Ships not under way are dressed from 0800 to sunset; ships under way do not dress until they come to anchor during that period.

Tolling of the Bell - The significance of the tolling of the Ships Bell at the Navy Ball is in remembrance of our fellow shipmates who gave the supreme sacrifice, their lives. It is called the Two Bell Ceremony, and when done right, can bring a tear to the hardest of Master Chiefs.

To Be Three Sheets in the Wind In the days of sailing ships, this is a phrase which refers to the lines used to control the sails of sailing vessels. When these sheets are cast to the wind (let go), it would cause the old sailing ships to shudder and stagger. The resulting track would be the same as that of a drunken Sailor, out of control, and hence "three sheets in the wind."

Stripes and Stars on Uniforms On 18 January 1876, Rear Admiral Stephen B. Luce recommended a collar with stars and stripes as a substitute for the plain collar used on the frocks of seamen. Three stripes on the collar was proposed for all grades, with the stripes on the cuffs to indicated grade. One stripe for E-1, etc.

 

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Scenes to Remember 

Pictures contributed by James Ziemba, HM2.  The above pictures were taken between October 1963 and June 1965.

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Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek

The Naval Amphibious Base, Little Creek, the largest base of its kind in the world, is the major operating station for the amphibious forces of the United States Atlantic Fleet. The base's location totals 2,120 acres of land and is sited at the extreme northwest corner of Virginia Beach. Little Creek's mission is to provide continuously improving support and services to operating forces and shore commands.

Little Creek is a small inlet on the southern shore of Chesapeake Bay approximately midway between Cape Henry and NAVSTA Norfolk. Ships of the U.S. Navy Amphibious Forces, such as LSDs, LPDs and LSTs routinely use the pier facilities at Naval Amphibious Base, Little Creek. Pier integrity at the Amphibious Base varies from pier to pier. Piers 11 through 19 on the west side of the harbor are thought to be the strongest. They are the only piers at the facility, except for the quay wall and "dogleg" on Little Creek Cove, that can be used by large ships. Some pier work has recently been completed, but consisted mainly of replacing faulty concrete decking.

The entrance channel to the Naval Amphibious Base, Little Creek has a project depth of 22 ft. It passes between two jetties into Little Creek Harbor on a bearing of 177.5°. Ships entering Little Creek Harbor should not exceed 20 ft draft.

Commissioned in 1945, the Naval Amphibious Base, Little Creek grew out of four bases constructed during World War II--the Amphibious Training Base, the Naval Frontier Base, and Camps Bradford and Shelton. It consisted of three annexes named for the former owners of the property--Shelton on the east, Bradford in the center, and Whitehurst to the west. Camp Bradford was named by the U. S. for a Confederate Army officer. During World War II, Camp Bradford was about half of the present Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base. On March 16, 1943 Camp Bradford changed its identity from a SeaBee Training Base to an Amphibious Training Base. Between May 1943 and January 1944, over 100,000 troops were amphibiously polished at Bradford. Day and night, men, tanks and guns poured in and out of the holds of LSTs, LCIs, LCTs, LCVP; Bradford's beaches were alive with activity. Early in January 1944 with the end of Army training in sight, Bradford took a deep breath and plunged into the vital LST program. Hundreds and hundreds of LSTs [Landing Ship, Tank] were manned by the thousands of men trained at Camp Bradford. Bradford's training staff was comprised of Mediterranean assault veterans giving trainees the benefit of their earlier combat experience. Many training time-savers were ingeniously put to work. One was the Mock-Up. This was the creation of the top deck and bridge of an LST on dry land. It was exactly the same size in every way. Its only difference was that this mock ship, known as the USS NEVERSAIL, was made of wood and concrete rather than steel.

The 61 piers surrounding Little Creek Channel provide docking facilities for approximately 30 Navy ships home ported at Little Creek.

The Little Creek site includes woodland training areas in support of amphibious operation. Sandy beaches and mudflats provide a realistic scenario for other hands-on training. Also included are three miles of beach on the Chesapeake Bay and 3/4 of a mile of beach on the Atlantic Ocean.

Afloat commands
As of December 2009)

  • USS Whidbey Island (LSD-41)
  • USS Fort McHenry (LSD-43)
  • USS Gunston Hall (LSD-44)
  • USS Ashland (LSD-48)
  • USS Carter Hall (LSD-50)
  • USS Oak Hill (LSD-51)
  • USS Tempest (PC-2)
  • USS Hurricane (PC-3)
  • USS Monsoon (PC-4)
  • USS Squall (PC-7)
  • USS Thunderbolt (PC-12)