USS Plymouth Rock (LSD29) Newsletter January - April, 2005 |
Welcome to the USS Plymouth Rock Newsletter
Ninth Edition: The USS Plymouth Rock Newsletter is a publication issued every four months by the USS Plymouth Rock Ships Association. If you would like to contribute an article, a piece of Navy or Plymouth Rock history, photo, memory or anything that might be of interest to you or other shipmates, you can sent it as an e-mail to:
Bill Provencal, Association Secretary
at:
billinp@metrocast.net
or regular mail at:
Bill Provencal
37 South Main Street
Pittsfield, NH 03263
If you change address or e-mail address be sure to let me (Bill Provencal) know so we can update our Crews List. My e-mail is billinp@metrocast.net Our website is found at www.ussplymouthrock.com
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| President Tom Wagner tfwagner@wagnerinsuranceagency.com 513-574-9838 Vice President Treasurer Secretary Ships Historian Ships Storekeeper |
Vito (Vic) Ramondetta, Berlin, CT e-mail
address: vicra38@aol.com |
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Liberty Call, Wagner's going
ashore!
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Thank You
Harry and Jeanne Andersen want to thank all the members of the Plymouth Rock Association for the flowers sent to the funeral of our daughter.
We received many cards of condolence from our shipmates and their families that helped us through a difficult time. Thank you all very much
Harry and Jeanne Andersen
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Shipmates Who Live in the
State of
Maryland
| George Beyerle | Baltimore |
| Steven Jones | Cambridge |
| Wallace Mason | Sykesville |
| Frank Migganka | Frederick |
| Joseph W. Parrish | Woodbine |
| Don Rhine | Finksburg |
| Jorge G. Trevino | Frederick |
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USS Plymouth Rock at Little Creek, VA, late 50's
Photo contributed by John Chappell
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NAVY COMMISSARY
A pert little lady went to the Navy Commissary store to do some shopping. She is bewildered over the large selection of toilet paper. Pardon me, sir, she says to the store manager, but can you explain the difference in all these toilet papers? Well, he replies, pointing out the most expensive brand, this is as soft as a babys kiss. Its $1.50 per roll. He grabs another and says, This is nice and soft as a bunny, strong yet gentle, and its $1.25 a roll. He grabs another and says, This is soft as a womans touch and smooth like skin, and its $1.00. He finally arrives at the bottom shelf and tells her, This toilet paper in a plain wrapper has no name, I dont know about it, but it sells at $.20 per roll. The little lady, asks the store manager for a couple of rolls and leaves the store.
A couple weeks later, shes back at the commissary store and seeks out the manager. She tells him Hey!, Ive got a name for your plain wrapper toilet paper. Call it CPO paper. Why, he asks. Because its just like the Chiefs in the Navy, SLICK, TOUGH, AND IT DOESNT TAKE CRAP OFF ANY ASSHOLE!
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Paid Association Members for 2004-2006
As of December 15, 2004 we now have 118 paid members
The 2004-2006 dues are now due, please send dues to Paul Mohawk, Treasurer. Make checks payable to USS Plymouth Rock Association. Dues are payable on a bi-annual basis (every two years) at $20.00 and are due on the year of the reunion (are due on an even year 2004, 2006, 2008, etc). Should a member or prospective member pay at any other time, dues will be credited from the preceding even year. The dues help to support the association with planning and having the reunion, newsletter printing and mailing, general postage and the cost of maintaining our website on line. Paul Mohawk's address is: 2505 Conifer Avenue, Alexandria, MN 56308
| Alardyce, John | Andersen, Harry | Baldwin, Brad | Balf, Sue | Bell, Joe |
| Bello, Raph | Bena, Joe | Bentheimer, Glenn | Berry, John | Bierce, George |
| Bild, Bob | Britt, Ben | Brusky, David | Buchanan, Richard | Buiak, Peter Jr. |
| Bullington, Calvin | Caldwell, Tim | Casillas, Greg. | Chappell, John | Clark, Robert |
| Conboy, Bill | Crowl II, Martin | Cummings, Bob | Cypher, Hal | Cyr, Dennis |
| Czarnetski, Bruce | Czarnetski, Jon | Dailey, Ronald J. | Dalfonzo, Sam | Dortch, David |
| Dussault, Andrew | Edwards, Maurice | Edwards, R. A. | Eldridge, Marguerite | Farneski, Robert |
| Fisher, Jack | Fisher, Jay | Formaro, Frank | Forton, Andrew G | Freeman, James |
| Gee, James | Gibson, David | Goodman, William | Gorse, Peter | Greco, Sal Jr. |
| Gregory, Peter | Guertin, Jerry | Haines, Ira | Hart, Ed | Hartson, George |
| Haws, Joe | Helledy, David | Hill, Edward Jr. | Hofman, Timothy | Hopper, Richard |
| Howland, John | Ishmael, Harry | Jennings, Seeley | Jepson, Norm | Johnson, John |
| Joyce, Ed | Kane, Thomas | Kaderka, Leonarad | Kellar, Harry | Krolak, Ray |
| Kuhns, Jimmy | Lamay, Roger | Larson, Jerry | Lillig, Bernie | Luttrell, James |
| Madill, Shorty | Mathis, Richard | McAvoy, John Sr. | McCull, Wade C. | Miskelly, Francis |
| Mohawk, Paul | Moyer, Larry | Murtha, Jerry | Musella, Rocco | Nichols, Bob |
| O'Neil, Thomas | Pihl, Walter C. | Power, Rand | Provencal, Bill | Purvis, Anthony |
| Ramondetta, Vitto | Raniszewski, Louis F | Reed, John | Robertson, Allen | Robinson, Jim |
| Rose, Chris | Schneider, James | Scott, Bill | Shanahan, Robert | Shewchuk, Richard |
| Shober, Robert | Sims, Bill | Smith, Larry | Stackhouse, Norman | Stark, Peter Jr. |
| Stovall, Jack | Stull, John III | Swart, Mike | Swathwood, David | Swearingen, Ronald |
| Tesh, Sam | Trevino, Jorge | Viaene, Robert | Vranesevic, Robert | Waggoner, Bernice |
| Wagner, Paul | Wagner, Thomas | Ward, James | Warwick, Robert | Watkins, Richard |
| Wells, Andy | Welsh, Mike | Ziemba, James |
Any paid Association member (2004-2006) who is not on this list and who have paid their dues, please contact Paul Mohawk at 2505 Conifer Ave., Alexandria, MN 56308, or e-mail: pshawks2@rea-alp.com For those wishing to join the Association and help us out financially you can obtain an application that can be printed on the ships website at www.ussplymouthrock.com All paid dues members receive a hard copy of the newsletter.
Membership List Changes
Dennis (Shorty) Cyr, new e-mail: shortybm3@yahoo.com
Change of Address: Harry L. Kellar, PO Box 4085, Clarksburg, WV 26302
George Bierce, new e-mail address: gwbfac@aol.com
James Schneider, Case Grande, AZ, new e-mail address: jmsch@netscape.com
Change of Address: John Stull III, 4022 Orange Street, Seffner, FL 33584
Change of Address: Bill Conboy, 26 Barton Rd., Asheville, NC 28804, new
e-mail address: w.f.conboy@charter.net
Change of Address: Thomas Hickson, Sr, 1723 19th Avenue, Rock Island,
IL 61201
Nelson Rimel, new e-mail address: gimtutu@adelphia.net
Change of Address: Timothy Hofman, PO Box 141, Penguin, Tazmania,
Australia 7316
Andy Wells, new e-mail address: alwells@mchsi.com
Change of Address: Jaames Smith, PO Box 575, Burgess, VA 22432
Gerald M. Holden, new e-mail address: holden@atomic.net
Paul Mohawk, new e-mail address: pshawks2@rea-alp.com
Bill Gilliam, new e-mail address: g905@copper.net
Sam Dalfonzo, new e-mail address: samd@nac.net
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Plymouth
Rock (LSD-29) underway shortly before deploying to the Mediterranean for a tour with
the Sixth Fleet, 8 April 1963. Note the experimental retractable sonar fitted to her bow.
Click image to see photo enlargement,
US Navy photo # 1089896, from the collections of the US Naval Historical Center.
SECNAV Retiree Council Website Launched
The website at www.lifelines.navy.mil/retireecouncil is designed to provide useful links on benefits, programs and related areas of interest for military retirees and their families. There are links to a number of military sites as well as ones hosted by the Social Security Administration and the Library of Congress. The site also connects to Shift Colors.
Fifth Ships Reunion
The fifth Ships Reunion was a great success thanks to the reunion coordinators Norm. Jepson and Rich. Mathis. The reunion was held at the Lodge of the Ozarks in Branson, MO. During the four days, we visited with old shipmates, took in various shows in Branson, held our business meeting and reunion supper. I have included a few pictures from the reunion, others can be seen on the ships website in the reunion page.


The Sixth Reunion will be held in Mystic/New London, CT area in late September or early October 2006. Reunion Chairman for this reunion are:
| George Bierce 67 Talmadge Hill Road Prospect, CT 06712 e-mail: gwbfac@aol.com cell 203-223-6965 203-758-3125 |
Dennis (Shorty) Cyr 119 Pinecrest Drive Waterbury, CT 06708 e-mail: shortybm3@yahoo.com 203-753-6220 |

Taking on ships stores in Montevideo, Uruguay, 1960 during
Presidents Eisenhower's Goodwill Tour to South America
Photo contributed by Tom Wagner
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Known Deceased Shipmates
For a complete listing visit our Memorial Page in the ships website
| Louis E. Wade Jr., YN2, 1998 | Albert (Butch) R. Kickok, MM2, 8/27/04 |
| George Murray, LCDR. 2004 | Wayne Waggoner, YNC, 4/10/04 |
| Gary Boyer, CYN3, July, 2002 | William Watkins, IC2, July 2002 |
| Darrell Toncy, BT3, 2002 | Roy Mason, BTC |
| Natalia Frolio, BT3 | Alan Stewart, EM2, 2001 |
| John "JD" Norris, SN, 1994 | Caroll H. LeDoux, 9/12/2004 |
| Daniel J. Kubicki, BT3 |
National Cemetery Burial Locations on Line
More that three million records showing where veterans have been buried in Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) national cemeteries are now available online. The nationwide grave locator contains more than three million records of veterans and dependents buried in VA's 120 cemeteries since the Civil War. The site has the same information found at the cemeteries to locate gravesites: name, dates of birth and death, period of military service, branch of service and rank, the cemeteries location, plus the grave's precise location in the cemetery. The website is at www.cem.va.gov and is updated nightly with information on burials the previous day.
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USS Plymouth Rock as seen through a Periscope
Photo of USS Plymouth Rock as seen through
the periscope crosshairs taken in the
fall of 1962, from the USS Carp (SS338)
Photo provided by Michelle Gagner
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DEEP THOUGHTS... The
HL Hunley was the first submarine to sink a ship in wartime in the year 1864:
Named for:
A lawyer who financed it.
Power:
Hand-cranked propeller
Steering:
Hand-turned
rudder
Construction:
Made from an iron boiler
Its one torpedo
90 to 130 pounds of gunpowder (equivalent to 400 to 800 popunds of TNT
today
Periscope
None
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Thank You's
We would like to thank the following shipmates/friends for providing pictures, information and articles to the website, the association and newsletter. Special thanks to Bill Scott for his recent cash donation to the Association
| Michelle Gagner | Leonard Kaderka | Tom Wagner | John Chappell |
| Bob (Dutch) Shober | Bill Scott | Roger Lamay | Harry Andersen |
| John Alardyce | Ron Hnatovic |
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Dec. 7, 2004 One of the questions I am
frequently asked is: "If you could only go to one event in sports every year, which
one would it be?" Most people expect my answer to
be The Final Four or The Masters or perhaps Wimbledon or The World Series. I love each of
those events and consider myself fortunate to have covered them often through the years.
But the answer to the question is simple: Army-Navy. There's just nothing like the
Army-Navy football game. Not because of the quality of the football game, but because of
the quality of the people playing the football game. And because of the quality of the
people who have played in the game in the past. Saturday, when Army and Navy play for the
105th time, the day will be special. Not because Navy is 8-2 and going to a bowl game for
a second straight season. Not because Army is 2-8 but well on the way back to
respectability under the leadership of Bobby Ross. Not because Navy fullback Kyle Eckel is
a good enough player that pro scouts say he could be a third or fourth round draft pick
this spring. That's all well and good. It is
also well and good that, regardless of the size and speed of the players--or lack
thereof--the game will be played very hard, with great intensity and emotion and a minimum
of trash-talking. The nature of Army-Navy is best summed up by a brief moment three years
ago when President Bush conducted the coin toss just 10 weeks after the tragedies of 9-11.
When he tossed the coin into the air, Navy captain Ed Malinowski made the call on behalf
of his team: "Heads SIR!" he said,
loud and clear for everyone in the packed stadium to hear. We all smiled at that moment
because only at Army-Navy would you hear a future marine tell the President of the United
States, "Heads SIR!" during the coin toss. Saturday, when the coin is
tossed, Malinowski will be in Iraq. So will a number of players who were on the field that
day along with many others who have played in Army-Navy games in the recent past. They
will be on the minds of all of us in the stadium throughout the day. Scott Zellem, Ron
Winchester, J.P. Blecksmith and Kevin Norman will also be on our minds. All played
football at Army and Navy. All graduated and went overseas to fight for their country. In
the last year, all died for their country. They aren't the first and, sadly, they won't be
the last. When Norman died last spring, Jim Cantelupe, his roommate at West Point, talked
about what he and all of those who attend the academies know and understand about life in
the military. "You never want to think
you're going to die overseas," he said. "But you know that it's possible. Every
day that you're there, you're preparing for the possibility that you may have to fight for
your country. You don't want to have to do it, but you have to be ready, willing and able
to do it. We all are. We know that's why we're there." If you are ready, willing and
able to fight for your country, then you must accept the possibility that you may die for
your country. When Pat Tillman, the one-time Arizona Cardinals defensive back died in
Afghanistan last spring, much was made--properly--of the fact that he died a hero because
he died fighting for his country. But what made Pat Tillman a hero wasn't the fact that he
died for his country, it was that he was WILLING to die for his country. Every player on the field
Saturday will be like Pat Tillman: willing to die for his country. Sure, Pat Tillman gave
up a lot of money and glory when he left the NFL to volunteer for the Army. The players at
Army and Navy may not be as gifted or as wealthy as Tillman was, but they made a decision
similar to his: they are all good enough students that they could have gotten into almost
any college; almost all are good enough players that they could have gotten scholarships
at Division 1-AA schools (at least). All could have left Army or Navy after two years, no
harm, no foul and gone to school someplace else. All elected to stay, knowing--especially
now--that they might very well find themselves in harm's way soon after graduation. Zellem graduated from Navy in
1991. He was long past his five year commitment when he died earlier this year. The same
was true for Norman, Army class of 1996, who steered his plummeting airplane away from a
populated area and crashed into a bridge so only he and his co-pilot would die. Winchester
and Blecksmith were younger, but understood--and embraced--the risks they faced. This week, the football players
at Notre Dame faced a crisis: their coach was fired quite suddenly. Should they agree to
play in The Insight.com bowl? The players at Auburn may face the unfairness of finishing a
season undefeated and yet not being allowed to compete for the national championship. The
players at Rutgers just went through a 12th straight losing season. Adversity? Sure. But not
exactly adversity that matches what Zellem, Winchester, Blecksmith, Norman and their
families have faced this year. Not exactly the adversity that many of the players who will
play in Philadelphia on Saturday may be facing a few months from now. Almost every college football
team likes to post some kind of inspirational message over the door of its locker room.
Things like, "Winners never quit and quitters never win." As the players exit
the locker room, they all reach up and touch the sign to remind themselves to try to live
up to the words. More often than not, the message changes when the coach changes. But at
Army, for as long as anyone can remember, the sign over the locker room door has been the
same: "I lay me down to bleed awhile but I will rise again to fight." Think about those words. In
many way they sum up exactly what our country--regardless of how one feels about the war
in Iraq--has done since 9-11. They also explain perfectly the mentality of those who play
football at Army and Navy. Knock me down and I will get up. Knock me out and I will still
get up. Kill me and others will rise to take my place. I may lose a battle, but I will
never surrender. Perhaps that's all just too
corny to even ponder in a sports world dominated today by Ron Artest and on-field brawls
in so-called, "rivalry," games and multi-millionaire athletes wrestling for
money with billionaire owners. But it is what Army and Navy has always been about and
always will be about. Contributed by John Allardyce, DC2
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From the Desk of Harry Andersen, Ships Historian
1. Would every one send me the address of the newspaper that serves their area, so I can update our mailing list to announce our next reunion in 2006.
2. Would everyone send me any photographs taken at the reunion so I can add them to our historical collection.
Thank You,
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Navy Trivia
Bilge rat
Someone who works in the engineering spaces.
Deep Six
1) Originally, the call of the leadsman signifying that the water
is more than 6 fathoms deep, but less than seven.
2) Euphemism for throwing something overboard. Also seen as 'splash', 'float check', 'float test'.
3) To deliberately throw something overboard in deep water to be lost for good. It comes from the fact that deep water is measured in "fathoms", or measurements of six feet. The depth of the average grave is also six feet
Eagles (or "Crows") on
Devices
For many years the U.S. specified modified forms of the Napoleonic
Eagle in the devices and insignia used to distinguish the various ranks and ratings of
enlisted men and officers. This eagle was usually cast, stamped or embroidered facing left
and the same practice was used by the Navy. Why the Napoleonic eagle faced left is
unknown. In 1941 the Navy changed the eagles facing direction to follow the heraldic rules
which faces the right toward the wearers sword arm. This rule continues to apply and the
eagle now faces to the front or the wearers right.
Head
The use of "head" in this context sounds like an
anatomical joke, or the work of someone who, to put it delicately, didn't know their head
from their foot. But after a dip into some maritime history, calling a ship's bathroom the
head makes perfect sense.
That's head, as in the forward part of the ship, the bow. In the days
of sailing vessels, there wasn't any indoor plumbing on land or at sea. Sailors took care
of business while hanging over the edge of the ship by ropes or on a platform - always at
the bow.
Why the bow? Because sailing ships had to have the wind coming from
behind them to power their sails. Thus, if the sailor chose the stern, or back of the
ship, the wind would be coming toward him. And, well ... you wouldn't *spit* into the
wind, would you?
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Navy Recruiting Posters
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